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There are several code patterns that can cause multiple stores to the same locals index in near succession, without any intervening instructions that can possibly use the stored value. One such code pattern is e.g. a, a, b = x, y, z. Another (since PEP 709) is a = [_ for a in []]. There are likely others.
In such cases, all but the final store can be replaced with POP_TOP. This alone isn't a huge gain, but this can also allow apply_static_swaps to take effect in these cases (because it can't safely reorder writes to the same location, but it can safely reorder POP_TOPs at will), removing SWAPs, which shrinks code size and reduces runtime overhead.
Not sure how much of a gain this will be in realistic cases, but it's also not hard to implement, so it seems worth doing as a marginal improvement to compiler output.
Note that in order to maintain tracing / debugger compatibility, we can only do this if line number is the same for all the store instructions. And we definitely can't eliminate the final store, even if it also appears to be unused, since it can always be visible to tracers/debuggers/locals()/etc.
I just experimented with my curiosity. (please understand that I'm not an optimization expert)
With my super naive implementation, it shows 14% slower than baseline.
I think that this is because of the non-existence of super instruction(POP_TOP__POP_TOP / POP_TOP__STORE_FAST)
while baseline has super instruction(STORE_FAST__STORE_FAST).
If we try to implement such optimization, do you think we must also implement the super instruction?
Or do you think that that scenario is not realistic? (I meant the 14% slower scenario only happens at microbenchmark?)
Please let me know if I understood your suggestion wrongly :)
Ah, I hadn't considered the possibility that we'd need new super-instructions to make this a win instead of a regression. Thanks for trying it out!
Not sure if there are reasons to avoid adding new super-instructions, but apart from that issue, this still seems worth it to me. Made some comments on the draft PR.
OOI what are the advantages of this over the superoptimizer approach?
In my opinion, the two optimizations are responsible for optimization in different layers. I believe that flowgraph-based optimization can optimize with lower cost compared to simulating stack side effects, and the superoptimizer can optimize a wider window that a flowgraph cannot handle. Therefore, I think these two optimizations complement each other, and if flowgraph-based optimization does not interfere with the optimization of the superoptimizer, it is acceptable to add additional optimizations.
@markshannon This issue is just tracking the fact that we can (and should) replace dead STORE_FAST with POP_TOP, and if we do so, it will allow better static elimination of SWAP instructions (and maybe in some cases allow eliminating a corresponding load and the POP_TOP as well). AFAIK that isn't currently explicitly tracked or mentioned anywhere; the currently proposed superoptimizer design explicitly leaves stores out of scope.
I don't have strong opinions about whether we do this via the existing optimize_basic_block infra, or via an expanded superoptimizer design. But I think it's quite simple to do via the existing infra, so I don't see any reason to block doing it now on the basis that someday we might do it in a superoptimizer instead.
The main wrinkle is that it seems we need to add some POP_TOP based super-instructions in order to keep micro-benchmarks positive with this change (otherwise they lose the benefit of the existing STORE_FAST super-instructions), but that will be true whether we do this in super-optimizer or standalone.
... multiple stores to the same locals index in near succession, without any intervening instructions that can possibly use the stored value.
Also need to make sure there isn't something between them that could raise an exception. We don't currently have this, we probably need to add this in the opcode_metadata.
Are there many dead stores in Python, given that two writes must occur on the same line for the first to count as dead?
I suspect that they are quite rare. Has anyone tried to measure how many?
Assuming that super instruction is applied when the corresponding code pattern is used, it is true that it is a small proportion when observed indirectly. #105040 (comment)
However, this only means that super instruction does not need to be applied, and whether reducing the opcodes for (_, _, a = some_tuple) is a separate issue.
However, this only means that super instruction does not need to be applied, and whether reducing the opcodes for (_, _, a = some_tuple) is a separate issue.
Okay we don't need to add extra super instructions for this optimization after Mark's PR is merged.
It becomes 3-4% faster.
cc @carljm
I also suspect it's not common. But given that the latest PR shows a clear improvement for this case without the need to add superinstructions, and with just a few lines in the compiler, it seems almost pure win to do it, even if the case is not common.
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corona10 commentedon May 28, 2023
I just experimented with my curiosity. (please understand that I'm not an optimization expert)
With my super naive implementation, it shows 14% slower than baseline.
I think that this is because of the non-existence of super instruction(POP_TOP__POP_TOP / POP_TOP__STORE_FAST)
while baseline has super instruction(STORE_FAST__STORE_FAST).
If we try to implement such optimization, do you think we must also implement the super instruction?
Or do you think that that scenario is not realistic? (I meant the 14% slower scenario only happens at microbenchmark?)
Please let me know if I understood your suggestion wrongly :)
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corona10 commentedon May 28, 2023
With super-instruction: 6-7% faster
: corona10@a96ed91
For more realistic example
corona10 commentedon May 29, 2023
pyperformance benchmark: https://gist.github.com/corona10/2cfd404ac0cc9d9a61c71d4365e7c5bb
1.01x faster (might be noise)
carljm commentedon May 30, 2023
Ah, I hadn't considered the possibility that we'd need new super-instructions to make this a win instead of a regression. Thanks for trying it out!
Not sure if there are reasons to avoid adding new super-instructions, but apart from that issue, this still seems worth it to me. Made some comments on the draft PR.
markshannon commentedon May 31, 2023
OOI what are the advantages of this over the superoptimizer approach?
#102869
The superoptimizer would need to understand stores, but that doesn't seem too complex.
corona10 commentedon May 31, 2023
In my opinion, the two optimizations are responsible for optimization in different layers. I believe that flowgraph-based optimization can optimize with lower cost compared to simulating stack side effects, and the superoptimizer can optimize a wider window that a flowgraph cannot handle. Therefore, I think these two optimizations complement each other, and if flowgraph-based optimization does not interfere with the optimization of the superoptimizer, it is acceptable to add additional optimizations.
Maybe @carljm has a different opinion from me.
carljm commentedon May 31, 2023
@markshannon This issue is just tracking the fact that we can (and should) replace dead
STORE_FASTwithPOP_TOP, and if we do so, it will allow better static elimination ofSWAPinstructions (and maybe in some cases allow eliminating a corresponding load and thePOP_TOPas well). AFAIK that isn't currently explicitly tracked or mentioned anywhere; the currently proposed superoptimizer design explicitly leaves stores out of scope.I don't have strong opinions about whether we do this via the existing
optimize_basic_blockinfra, or via an expanded superoptimizer design. But I think it's quite simple to do via the existing infra, so I don't see any reason to block doing it now on the basis that someday we might do it in a superoptimizer instead.The main wrinkle is that it seems we need to add some
POP_TOPbased super-instructions in order to keep micro-benchmarks positive with this change (otherwise they lose the benefit of the existingSTORE_FASTsuper-instructions), but that will be true whether we do this in super-optimizer or standalone.iritkatriel commentedon May 31, 2023
Also need to make sure there isn't something between them that could raise an exception. We don't currently have this, we probably need to add this in the opcode_metadata.
markshannon commentedon Jun 5, 2023
Are there many dead stores in Python, given that two writes must occur on the same line for the first to count as dead?
I suspect that they are quite rare. Has anyone tried to measure how many?
corona10 commentedon Jun 5, 2023
Assuming that super instruction is applied when the corresponding code pattern is used, it is true that it is a small proportion when observed indirectly.
#105040 (comment)
However, this only means that super instruction does not need to be applied, and whether reducing the opcodes for (
_, _, a = some_tuple) is a separate issue.corona10 commentedon Jun 5, 2023
Okay we don't need to add extra super instructions for this optimization after Mark's PR is merged.
It becomes 3-4% faster.
cc @carljm
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carljm commentedon Jun 6, 2023
I also suspect it's not common. But given that the latest PR shows a clear improvement for this case without the need to add superinstructions, and with just a few lines in the compiler, it seems almost pure win to do it, even if the case is not common.
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