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excerpt: We caught up with Rich Harris to see how he was settling into his new role with Vercel and what is next for Svelte.
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start: April 27, 2022
title: Building the Future of Svelte at Vercel
youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1sSUDVoij4
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## Questions

1. I don’t know if this man needs an introduction, but can you give us a brief introduction and tell us a little about your previous work with Rollup and Svelte and your work at Vercel?
2. Where does Vercel fit in the future of Svelte?
3. What is the biggest difference in having a compiler vs the virtual dom?
4. How does declarative Svelte turn into efficient imperative code for the browser?
5. What do you envision is the next big thing for Svelte and SvelteKit?
6. What are your thoughts on where the web is going with islands architecture?
7. What are your thoughts on reactivity in Svelte, are there ways to improve on it similar to the SolidJS approach with more fine grained updating?
8. What do you think Svelte has to do to get more market share?
   1. How to get buy in on a team?
9. Do you think the State of JS and other surveys provide value for the community?
10. What is your favorite thing about the Svelte Community?
    1. How many are on the core team?
    2. Move to GitHub Discussions
11. Shadow endpoints are a new for Svelte. What is the reasoning behind adding this and what are the benefits?

    - What about the proposal for an api layout wrapper? ‣

12. Do you think Svelte is the most beginner friendly framework?
    1. Do you think there is value in learning the fundamentals first?
